Heavy Rail Line

by Chris S 21 Oct 2008, 8:52am

"The people of Newcastle and the Hunter deserve to have a say in the future of our CBD." What a joke! Newcastle is a city in decay thanks to you and past governments. All that happens is talk and when something does eventually happen as with Honeysuckle it is an absolute abortion.
What are you going to do for Newcastle Jodie, other than talk and procrastinate, as Newcastle becomes a third world city?
Three rail crossings in a city!!! We need someone with vision and positive action. Get rid of the heavy rail line and give Newcastle a transport system it deserves.
Chris Shand 

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Chris S Comment 1 21 Oct 2008, 8:53 AM

"The people of Newcastle and the Hunter deserve to have a say in the future of our CBD."

What a joke! Newcastle is a city in decay thanks to you and past governments. All that happens is talk and when something does eventually happen as with Honeysuckle it is an absolute abortion.

What are you going to do for Newcastle Jodie, other than talk and procrastinate, as Newcastle becomes a third world city?

Three rail crossings in a city!!! We need someone with vision and positive action. Get rid of the heavy rail line and give Newcastle a transport system it deserves.

Chris Shand

nighttrain Comment 1.1 21 Oct 2008, 7:03 PM

Absolutely !! Jodie has been nothing but contemptuous in her rantings about GPT just as she was about Energy Australia stadium. Jodie, you were handed the position, not the mandate, you will need to work for Newcastle not for your career aspirations before you will ever have the right to say you are speaking for us, another thing Jodie, in future try "THINKING" BEFORE you speak on issues important to us Nocacostrians.

snail Comment 1.1.1 23 Oct 2008, 12:21 PM

To be fair Jodi then went on to publicly encouraged people to use this site so she can presumably gain a more up-to-date understanding of the public's consensus. Well done. But now it's time to be strong and reflect the decisions in her leadership based on this overwhelming REVISED community consensus. Private and public have got to work together on this. It can't be done one OR the other.

GregM Comment 1.1.2 31 Oct 2008, 12:07 AM

I predict Jodie and her incompetent labor state government will make no decision on this issue. Unfortunately Newcastle as a safe labor seat will remain a low priority for the state government, particularly a government that has mismanaged the state to find itself at the end of the longest economic boom in Australia to have no money. If I'm wrong, I suspect its decision will not have Newcastle's best interests at heart, but will be the cheapest option for the government

snail Comment 1.1.2.1 11 Nov 2008, 12:41 PM

Probably GregM...ONLY if the government was to fund the entire project by themselves. However, there are smarter options especially where the private sector has weighed in and expressed their interests. I reiterate, there is a private / public solution! Lets see how smart our girl is!

fletch Comment 1.2 4 Nov 2008, 12:18 AM

Dear chris, If you read the paper, or walk down the street, you'll see construction EVERYWHERE...Decaying city...what a load of garbage!! Newcastle has 2 billion dollars worth of construction going on. And if the city is "Decaying" then why is "HOLLYWOOD" using parts of our town for global blockbusters such as "Superman" (2007). I'm sure Jodie is going to do everything within her power to make Newcastle a better place. It all starts with communication,mate...and I think you'll find that jodie cares so much about this town she has had a website buit called "bang the table" where she wants to hear what people of this town has to say..maybe you should visit it.

MCameron Comment 2 21 Oct 2008, 10:05 PM

Why would we plan a world class city without a heavy mass transport solution? If the developer is serious about future planning and population growth, removing any infrastructure is a mistake. Let them have the corridor but make them bury from Newcastle to Civic and build over from Civic back towards Mayfield. Any argument about the cost of this is not the Taxpayers problem, this is OUR asset and a company seeking profit wants it for their benefit! There was no problems in building basement carparks in every Honeysuckle development on the waterfront.

judogazza45 Comment 2.1 22 Oct 2008, 10:35 AM

It defies logic that in these times of environmental awareness and increased costs of running a car that it would be proposed to remove a means of mass public transport. Major cities in Europe are returning to public transport as they were simply unable to support the use of cars anymore. The revitalisation of Newcastle CBD needs much more than the removal of the rail line and this would be the most backward step imaginable. Public transport needs to be expanded all over Newcastle to the equal of cities such as Auckland NZ where buses run every 7 minutes throughout the city.

Reformer Comment 2.1.1 23 Oct 2008, 5:45 AM

Judo the heavy rail is environmentally unsustainable. Matt and Jodi have the information but keep it from this forum, fearing political and administrative backlash from Sydney and the Rail Unions.

Please provide us with your calculations on the Environmental "break-even point" of heavy rail verses light buses running down the RTC (RAPID TRANSIT CORRIDOR) from Broadmeadow to Newcastle.

judogazza45 Comment 2.1.1.1 25 Oct 2008, 2:11 PM

A large percentage of rail into Newcastle is electric or are you unable to determine that. The diesel rail cars which operate are far more environmentally friendly based on persons carried versus pollution created than any bus, light or otherwise. What is your RTC? Where did you get that from? I simply can't see where the idea of removing the rail is going to affect the revitalisation of the CBD. There must be a very large "fairyland" out there if you believe that. The number of buses required far outweighs the number of trains, hence more pollution.

Leader Comment 3 23 Oct 2008, 6:35 PM

This is the situation,Everyone seems to want to rid of the line out of Newcastle because they blame it for of Newcastles problems...If this new interchange is to be built at Wickham ,where are the costings for it??

It would have to be similar scale to existing Newcastle station which means at least four platforms,sidings to store trains when not in use.

Waiting rooms,staff rooms, offices."Newcastle station has approx 300 staff over a 24 hour period" ,commutor car park bus interchange .

As trains are up to 8 carraiges long ,what about the effects of stewart avenue level crossing,Then we will problary get more…

 

Greg44 Comment 3.1 24 Oct 2008, 7:10 AM

Leader

I hear what you are saying about the doing what the developrs asked. It is not being helped by the way our State Member described it ("Gun to our head"). The reality is that governments at all levels provide funding to help private projects get off the ground. All the businesses at Darling Harbour would not be there without Government Funding to build Darling Harbour in the first place. PPP's are now an acceptable way to get things happening in most places except NSW. The test, as always on public money is that it is a "win-win". The win-win in more…

 
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