Land Reclassifications

We have lots of people moving to the area so I dont get why we are selling off open space - we need more not less. These areas can be improved with money from developers.

I dont know all the parcels being sold but it seems to me there mst be bette ways to raise money than selling land. Council can use developer contributions and riases a lot in rates - it should manage budgets more effectively.

What a crazy policy this is!!! To sell off an apprciating assett to build a deprciating one is beyond belief at best - and down right commonsence at worst!

Councilor Penny George is incorrect when she commented that we are simply replacing one asset for another. This is true however one will always be growing in value while the other will be falling! All of this to fund a leisure centre that the community may not even want - or use!!! The ratepayers of this shire should have a say in how $17mil is being spent!

The argument that the question more…

I strongly agree with Nick Cleary.

The community of the Wingecarribee is NOT calling for a centralised "Leisure Centre". And we certainly are not in favour of selling off our public parks to pay for it.

In the case of Robertson, the blocks in question were given to the Council, as a public facility - to form part of the Park. Now the proposal is to STEAL that public land.

It is an outrage, which should be stopped. Councillors who support this deal ought hang their heads in shame.

I think its good to see council managing their assets actively - it costs cash to manage land.. not sure if a leisure centre is the thing but that is why we elect council to make these decisions

There are far more urgent and necessary issues in this shire that need to be addressed before money is literally throw down the river. Some repairs to footpaths would be good and more built around the shire that we can all use all the time would be a good start. If this Council became more proactive rather then reactive the infrastructure would not be in the mess its in. Last election I certainly did not vote for a leisure centre and nor did any one that you talk to at the moment. This will be far from an "assett", try a very expensive liability. If the land is to be sold the money should be put back into the respectice towns and villages that it comes from. Not there solely for Bowral. I also have to wonder if anyone has done any homework on how the Council came by these lots of public land and if in fact they can legally sell them!

My question is. what was the criteria used to determine that a Park was surplus? Wa sit a decision of an employeeof council or were guidelines give by Councillors to the staff.

Did the Councillors seek residents /ratepayers views before they voted to sell off the parks./ If they did, when was it and it they have not , why not.

The councillos are there to represent us and should seek our views and not leave it till the last minute.. .

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If these parcels of land are to be sold then there should be an open and frank debate on how best to spend the windfall. The time for this debate is now before the land is sold, not after. The scope and cost of the leisure centre has changed from that previously advised by Council. As such, Council do not have a clear mandate to proceed with the completion of the leisure centre. It is time for Council to open up a debate on the leisure centre. I am concerned that the money being budgeted for the centre would fix a lot of infrastructure problems which Council are continuing to complain about and raising rates to pay for. Lets get the priorities right!

Whilst not being against a leisure centre, I am against the selling of parkland to subsidise the few that can actually be in a position to use the proposed centre at Edridge Park

I live by, and use Thwaites Park at Moss Vale like many others,and to loose such a recreation area would limit the availabilty of local children a safe place to play,and restrict older residents from exercise, that all experts in health are advocating.Never in my time here, has there being more a contentious issue.With more people being aware now of the consequences of such radical plans by our council,let us hope that our councilors will be prepared to accept that a lot of peoples opinions have now changed.The whole issue has become personal and politcal in the eyes of many,and does undermine the good work done generally by our council.

Council has its priorities all wrong. The Robertson parkland designated for rezoning and sale is in a residential street in the heart of Robertson village that is not sealed and is full of potholes, one block from Hoddle street. This is not rural back blocks, but medium density residential. In 2008, fixing this and similar third world problems is surely more important than providing a heated indoor swimming pool for a few in a cold climate region at vast expense and with severe carbon consequenses to the environment, considering:

a. Council, through greedy and foolish investment policies has just lost millions

b Council is always crying poor because people won't voluntarily contribute more rates

c. Governments at all levels should be reducing demand for services to keep inflation and interest rates in check.

I note that council has not included these blocks in the parkland mowed under the current mowing contract, presumably to present a fait accompli, in proving that they are not used even passively, when they are knee high in weeds.

Do not sell Roberson parkland to build an expensive uneconomic luxury facility to be used by a few in Bowral!

A further comment penned after my second mug of tea this Friday morning.

If you wish to comment, criticise, compliment council on the issue, then PLEASE consider the concluding comments in my earlier posting.

I object the overarching issue, which of course means each parcel of land / asset that is currently the subject matter of the public hearings and the manner in which process is being followed, but out of order. Given my justified mistrust of any 'authority', the reason can only be to mislead and entrap people.

Remember that the ways bureaucratic minds work is different to normal people. Here is more…

Dear Wingecarribee residents,

Council hosted a resident's meeting in the School of Arts at Robertson last night (Thursday 6/2/2008). The meeting was not sufficiently well attended, but all Roberston residents that spoke were against the plan. One lone voice from Yerinbool was keen on selling Robertson parkland! It was not till the meeting was underway that the agenda really became clear to me. Council are just going through the statutory motions to clear the way for what is a done deal.

The ground has been well prepared to sell off critical corner blocks in Hampden Park, Robertson. As well as being the more…

A clarification - My comment was removed NOT because it was offensive, inappropriate or spam. The moderator sent me a note saying that it was a duplicate. It was just that, but WHY?

When a more appropriate thread surfaced, I copy pasted that posting to the new thread. Moderator deemed it duplication, potential spam and contacted me.

It is GOOD to see some control over comment. I have no grief with the decision, but would have preferred a non standard entry. It implies I have been other than civil, and that I hope is wrong.

Anyway - compliments to the site, its structure and management. It is the best electronic sidewalk I have ever trodden.

Peter Cunningham

I want to complain and change the cut of by coucil for email submissions (this was done ellectronically to me)...

it would be better if we could say something after hearing what issues people have reaised at the public hearings...

can bangthetable have a spell checker and hwo runs this web...

can and will parks be sold below market value

next meetings

18 Feb 2008 - Bundanoon - Belinda Barnett (Ben Nevis Circuit & Broughton Street)

19 Feb 2008 - Mittagong - Belinda Barnett (Rainbow Road, Rotary Park, Iron Mines Oval & Old Hume Highway Berrima)

20 Feb 2008 - Colo Vale - Belinda Barnett (Waratah Park, Government Road/Drapers Road, Wilson Drive & Hill Top Memorial Hall) more

I want my strongest objection recorded for prosperity against the proposed re-classification of public lands to operational (for the purpose of sale).

I use my democratic right to object to this proposal in full voice.

It is not my intention to defame any individual.

As a resident of Moss Vale for 40 years, I appreciate the benefits of the public lands of Moss Vale and the entire Wingecarribee Shire.

I do not have specialist knowledge of the relevant local government legislature.

I object strongly to the Wingecarribee Shire Council (WSC - local council) hiring specialists at great public expense to more…

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These public lands have great potential and simply can not be reclassified as operational are located across the shire and are to the benefit to countless people of numerous demographics and socio income groups-(at no cost)-

why do I have to add comment when all I want is the maps of the parks that council wants to reclassify.......

the lack of information on council web site must be deliberate

I am very disappointed that more people have not found their way to this very useful forum for expressing their views on the Wingecarribee Council's planned land re-classifications and re-zoning.

Judging by the meetings I have attended, the papers I have read, the radio stations I have listened to, and the people I have spoken to, there is an overwhelming majority of residents opposed to the council's plans to sell off our parks and bushlands, just to fund a leisure centre....no matter how worthwhile that project might be.

Most of us, indeed, don't have a problem, in principle, about building a more…

I have just read the Wingecarribee Febuary issue 55.

The comments by our Mayor in the opening item.

The need to "preserve the Shire's lifestyle and aesthetic values"

" is contary to Councils plan to sell off the Parks within the Shire.

How can Council now sell off the Parks when such importance has been placed on such in the Mayors comment ?