Precincts in Mt Kuring-gai

by Hornsby Council 2:59pm, 11 Mar 2009

Council is trying to encourage more housing close to shops and train stations in Mt Kuring-gai. Do you support this approach? Do you have any comments? 

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Ic_relatesdoc Relates to document: Housing Strategy Vol2 Pt03 MtKuringai Precincts (1.7 MB)

Is this issue important to you? Votes: 4

N S Pearce Comment 1 16 Mar 2009, 3:23 PM

From bushland shire to high rise shire.

A five story high building in Mt Kuring-Gai. Why stop with one , every block of land here is within walking distance of rail transport. One high rise on its own would stick out like...well i will leave that to your own imagination.

Im sure some kid with his ruler and HB pencil will come up with a design that will blend into the natural landscape.

Consider This Comment 2 17 Mar 2009, 9:01 AM

Surely there are plenty of other opportunities within Mount Kuring-gai for additional housing rather than one 5 storey development? And given that ALDI are already considering redeveloping this particular property for commercial use only you would think it would make sense to review other areas? (Note - I've never heard of ALDI building residential developments!)

Mount Kuring-gai has long been recognised for its 'village' atmosphere, one which would not typically lend itself to high density development, rather more suited to medium density / townhouse arrangements where neighbours are not being overshadowed by towering unit blocks!

There is ample opportunity for this style of development in Mount Kuring-gai which could be situated much closer to the train station, similar to that per recent developments around the Asquith area.

Surely there are plenty of other opportunities within Mount Kuring-gai for additional housing rather than one 5 storey development? And given that ALDI are already considering redeveloping this particular property for commercial use only you would think it would make sense to review other areas? (Note

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K Gow Comment 3 17 Mar 2009, 9:39 AM

"This urban design analysis recommends a series of controls that have a direct influence upon important outcomes such as:

Compatibility with the character and amenity of existing neighbourhoods"

How can any five storey development be considered compatible with the existing character of Mount Kuring-gai? As a 'young family' that have moved to Mount Kuring-gai 6 months ago precisely for the 'village feel' it offered, I agree with the previous comment that townhouse arrangements would be far more suitable here. I would also wonder why it is considered young families might be attracted to unit living north of Hornsby - if I wanted a unit, I would go to Hornsby itself for the convenience of transport and amenities offered.

For the 21 dwellings this offers I can't believe there aren't other suitable spaces in Mount Kuring-gai to provide more compatible housing.

"This urban design analysis recommends a series of controls that have a direct influence upon important outcomes such as:Compatibility with the character and amenity of existing neighbourhoods"How can any five storey development be considered compatible with the existing character of Mount Kuring-gai?

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bellinid Comment 3.1 17 Mar 2009, 1:31 PM

I think that the urban design analysis says this sort of thing for all the precincts. This makes one suspect that the analysis was very superficial and was just a way of putting together a string of appropriate phrases and concepts to make it look like it was indepth and serious. For $50,000 the urban designers could not have done much else. Plus lots of things would have already been decided beforehand anyway. Dodgy, unprofessional stuff.

NoThanks Comment 4 18 Mar 2009, 2:34 PM

I am posting this in Mt Colah and Berowra sections too...

I have concerns about the safety of bringing more people into Mt Colah, Mt Kuring-Gai and Berowra when there is effectively one road in, and one road out. In a bushfire situation there is roadblock and there has been no planning amongst different sectors on how to remedy this. Council needs to have an emergency plan in place for how to coordinate traffic when bushfire is in this area. You are planning on putting high-density housing right on the main escape routes.

bellinid Comment 5 11 May 2009, 8:14 AM

Page 2 of today's (11/05/09) SMH - PLANNING COUP FOR DEVELOPERS. Dept of Planning has been overhauled so that senior staff who were not sympathetic enough to developers have been given the boot, thus paving the way for developers to maraud Sydney like visigoths.

Check it out!

redsmart Comment 6 19 May 2009, 6:23 PM

I came to live in the 'BUSHLAND Shire' to be overlooked by bushland,

NOT five story high-rise!

redsmart Comment 7 21 May 2009, 3:13 PM

In the recent Housing Strategy forums held by Hornsby Councils' Planning Department, one of the posters read;

" The Challenge for Hornsby Shire:

How can council ensure an adequate supply of houses to meet state government requirements based on predicated growing & aging population, while PROTECTING BUSHLAND, PROPERTY VALUES, EXISTING RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER & NOT OVERBURDENING ROADS & SERVICES?"

By any measure, Hornsby council planning has NOT ACHIEVED ANY of its stated objectives!

A five story flat roofed public housing style box building planted in the middle of of predominately single story pitched roofed housing is the very antithesis of the stated objective; blighting the bushland, reducing our property values, destroying the residential character & overburdening our roads & services!

In the recent Housing Strategy forums held by Hornsby Councils' Planning Department, one of the posters read;" The Challenge for Hornsby Shire:How can council ensure an adequate supply of houses to meet state government requirements based on predicated growing & aging population, while PROTECTING BUSHLAND,

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Dennis Tamini Comment 8 27 May 2009, 5:13 PM

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The following are based not on assumptions but “officially” admitted FACTS.

The Australian Constitution DOES NOT recognise ‘local government’

Attempts by the “government” to alter the constitution to recognize ‘local government’ have failed TWICE. The last Referendum was held on the 3rd of September 1988. 67% of the population REJECTED the proposal for recognition of a third tier of “government”, namely, local “councils”.

The result of any Referendum is LAW. Despite that clear unmistakable affirmation of the Constitution by the people of Australia IN ALL STATES, the “government” (Hawke) introduced the ‘Local Government Act 1989” (1993 in some states)

All the bureaucrats, in every “council”, are relying on this ULTRA VIRES, NULL and VOID Act to justify their UNLAWFUL actions.

The “council” has no power over your property unless you consent! The concentration of power comes from a vacuum. The Constitutional power you have that you decide to ignore does not go away. It accumulates to whomever wishes to have it via the issuance of ignored/ uncontested/ lost claims. Remember all the Council Notices in your local rag that you don’t read? How many times have you had someone speak on your behalf about what they say you decided? They can only do so with your consent in law therefore what they say and do with that consent compels you to their will even though it is against your conscience to do so. Many times they use bluff to compel you.

The remedy at hand is to ask them in a notice to provide their origin of power to direct you in anything.

"He who does not repel a wrong when he can, occasions it."

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"He who does not deny, admits."

The Constitution of Australia requires that State Government attends to it’s infrastructure. It gets the resources to do this from the Federal Government as it is unable to tax by law. As “councils” are not government they are relegated in operation into a state of being, not unlike that of, a sub contractor to the State Government in providing services for which they receive state monies. As they are not government, and need to be somehow legally recognized in law, they are set up as businesses e.g. CITY OF NOWHERE ( abn 345 345 345). As a business they can operate within business guidelines. They CHARGE you for services that the Constitution has already legally required the State Governments to provide you without taxes. When you use those services you are required to pay for them as they are NOT government services. Just as you have a right to choose to pay for a private hospital rather than use the free public hospital you can also “choose” to use a private business to provide your local infrastructure. You consent and choose the private business to undertake your local requirements by accepting and paying the demand on the rates notice or by ignoring it. (Remember, "He who does not deny, admits.") Just by phoning your local “council” and speaking to someone about this or that you have accepted their “authority”. You have consented to do business with them. Remember querying the bill from your solicitor about paying for a phone call to ask him/her whether they got your fax etc? Recognition of authority is “deemed” to be consent.

Should a local council business (“your council”) become insolvent you have consented to individually meet the financial shortfall.(The buy back of the Quarry) You have consented to this by not informing this local council business that this is not the case. If the local corner shop goes broke do you consent to pay all of it’s bills also?

If you have a local matter then take it to the State Government Local Government Minister’s office and if that reaps no help approach your local State Member to get it done. That is what the Constitution requires you to do as a loyal Australian.

If you do nothing with this information you have “consented” to give your right to act on your behalf on these matters to others. It is also your right to do this. All power in Australia rests in the hands of individual Australians and when used this power can rewrite the Constitution and direct the highest court of the land to your bidding!!!!

THE POWER TO CHANGE THIS COUNTRY IS IN YOUR HANDS

NO LEGITIMACY—NO CONSTITUTION—NO HEAD OF POWER The following are based not on assumptions but “officially” admitted FACTS. The Australian Constitution DOES NOT recognise ‘local government’ Attempts by the “government” to alter the constitution to recognize ‘local government’ have

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