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Council is trying to encourage more housing close to shops and train stations in Thornleigh. Do you support this approach? Do you have any comments?
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Housing Strategy Vol2 Pt09 Thornleigh Precincts (1.689 MB)
Comment 1 18 Mar 2009, 10:30 AM
Does Thornleigh have exceptionally low access to the internet or are they just not interested?
Come on guys! Say something!!!!
Comment 1.1 23 May 2009, 12:26 AM
The local apathy is astounding !!
Do these people want to be forced out of their homes ?
Maybe it's the rumours of million dollar payoffs to sell...
Comment 2 18 Mar 2009, 10:30 AM
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Comment 3 21 Mar 2009, 6:56 PM
Hornsby Council’s proposal to put an 8-10 storey development between Pennant Hills Rd and the railway line plus the 5 storey units for Station St and surrounds in Thornleigh as well as their proposal for Normanhurst leaves my partner and I gob smacked, dumfounded, and very angry. Their own documentation highlights traffic issues and the lack of green space available for the required parks. Pennant Hills Road is already a nightmare and Sefton Rd, Milson Pde, Malsbury Rd, Clark Rd, College Crescent & Unwin Rd can resemble a car park in peak and school times and it just gets worse. more…
Comment 3.1 21 Mar 2009, 9:09 PM
It is not only as ratepayers that people need to stand up but also as voters in State and Federal seats. NSW needs to spend serious money in Sydney on infrastructure such as rail and metro but the government always pulls out of committing itself to anything. This is why they have dumped the issue of providing extra housing onto local government. local government often compounds the problem by being b-grade and mediocre in their decision making. Hence we get Strategies like this one. Local government then tries to get out of being responsible for any of it by saying more…
Comment 3.1.1 22 Mar 2009, 8:58 AM
I totally agree. Public transport over here is completely inadequate and the bias is towards road and not rail all the time.
A growing population is a reality and we are going to have to deal with higher density living, but it needs to be planned for properly not just plonked in there to benefit developers. I really don't hold out much hope of this happening but it is worth fighting for.
Australia does need to wake up to what is happening and to start caring about what is going on around them including the issues of population growth and dare I utter a dirty word in this country GLOBAL WARMING, instead of letting government and the pathetic media that supports them, fob them off with pathetic excuses as to why this country is going to leave our children with a legacy that is just too horrible to contemplate.
Comment 3.2 15 Apr 2009, 4:09 PM
Don't we have enough traffic problems around Thornleigh/Pennant Hills? So putting more housing in the shape of ugly units and then bring more people with more cars into the area. If it's not broke DON'T FIX IT
Comment 4 11 May 2009, 8:15 AM
Page 2 of today's (11/05/09) SMH - PLANNING COUP FOR DEVELOPERS. Dept of Planning has been overhauled so that senior staff who were not sympathetic enough to developers have been given the boot, thus paving the way for developers to maraud Sydney like visigoths.
Check it out!
Comment 5 18 May 2009, 1:45 PM
A little off topic, but Thornleigh along Pennant Hills road is a carbon monoxide chamber. If the government doesn't do something soon with the increase of Semi's & B-doubles, babies in the area will be born with 3 heads.
Comment 6 21 May 2009, 3:01 PM
In the recent Housing Strategy forums held by Hornsby Councils' Planning Department, one of the posters read;
"The Challenge for Hornsby Shire:
How can council ensure an adequate supply of houses to meet state government requirements based on a predicated growing & aging population, while PROTECTING BUSHLAND, PROPERTY VALUES, EXISTING RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER & NOT OVERBURDENING ROADS & SERVICES?"
By any measure, Hornsby council planning has NOT ACHIEVED ANY of its stated objectives!
A five story flat roofed public housing style box building planted in the middle of predominately single story pitched roofed houses is the very antithesis of the stated objective; blighting the bushland, reducing property values, destroying the existing residential character & overburdening our roads & services!
Comment 7 23 May 2009, 12:39 AM
Is anyone prepared to resist this or is it really a "done deal" as asserted by council ?
Come on Thornleigh....do something !
Comment 8 24 May 2009, 2:02 PM
I've heard of a Thornleigh - Normanhurst Action Group.
Will they please let us know how to contact them - we want to contribute.
Comment 8.1 24 May 2009, 3:43 PM
I think this is misinformation.
Comment 8.1.1 24 May 2009, 7:17 PM
Misinformation - Please elaborate.
If I find such a group I'll let you know.
Comment 8.1.1.1 24 May 2009, 7:51 PM
Misinformation meaning that you have heard something about the existence of such a group that information was not perhaps true. Maybe somebody got something wrong. But sure if you do find such a group please let me know, before June 1 obviously., After June 1 nobody will be able to make any further comments on this topic on Bang the Table.
Comment 8.1.1.1.1 24 May 2009, 11:41 PM
Appears to be an extension of the protest against the Aldi development but not very well organised and most likely too little too late. We went to the meeting at Waitara and though there was much deep feeling evident it all seemed disorganised and unfocused, except for Normanhurst and Berowra. We'll be sending letters of protest but we don't know of anyone else from the Thornleigh precinct doing so. There certainly haven't been any public meetings, notices, or even leaflets in this area.
Comment 8.1.1.1.1.1 25 May 2009, 9:31 AM
That's interesting. I thought the Aldi thing had disappeared off the radar ages ago.
Why are Thornleigh residents against Aldi in Thornleigh? It seems that it would bring competition to the retail area and this could be good thing. I don't know enough about the issues with the proposal so I am interested in knowing what they are.
Comment 8.1.1.1.1.1.1 26 May 2009, 9:43 PM
I can't speak for all the locals but those I have spoken to are mainly concerned about traffic. Aldi will be bounded by Pennant Hills Road, Bellevue Street and Station Street.
Customer vehicles access from Station Street and the loading dock will be in Bellevue Street, roughly opposite the Woolies dock. Duelling semis at high noon.
Woolworths are a virtual monopoly, some competition would be healthy.
For some reason HSC are against Aldi and for 5 storey units in the same streets.
Comment 8.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 26 May 2009, 9:58 PM
Yes Woolwoths are getting bigger and bigger. soon they will be running Macro in Hornsby too because they have bought Macro. I can see that semis would be a problem on the small streets in Thornleigh. Aldi are proving very popular in Hornsby.Who knows what logic council uses!
Comment 9 8 Jun 2009, 11:19 PM
The Thornleigh Normanhurst Residents Group has arranged a public meeting to discuss implications of the strategy for the Thornleigh area.
Thornleigh Community Centre, corner Phyllis and Central Avenue Thornleigh, Friday 12th June - 8pm ~ 10pm.
Comment 9.1 13 Jun 2009, 3:10 PM
I attended the meeting, and report on it in my blog at http://www.hornsby1.info/page/BLOG+-+RichardB43. I might be able to get around to putting the information up here later.
Comment 9.1.1 13 Jun 2009, 4:38 PM
Thanks Richard
Comment 10 20 Jun 2009, 11:19 AM
The traffic issues in Thornleigh will be worsened by the proposed gross over-development of the SAN hospital site. STEP Inc has commented in its submission to the Dept of Planning on this issue as follows:
o Hornsby Shire Housing Strategy Impacts
In the case of the Comenarra Parkway [and Wood Street] / Pennant Hills Road intersections, this bottleneck problem will be worsened by recent development proposals under the Hornsby Housing Strategy Plan. This Strategy plans to redevelop the area to the left of the Comenarra Parkway at the intersection with Pennant Hills Road, into five story high rise housing units, while allowing ten more…
Comment 10.1 20 Jun 2009, 6:05 PM
What are the following please?:
1. STEP Inc
2. MWT
3. WER
Comment 10.2 20 Jun 2009, 6:25 PM
Just found out that WER stands for Wahroonga Estate Redevelopment.
Comment 10.3 20 Jun 2009, 6:32 PM
And Masson Wilson Twiney for MWT.
You should have included the full names and descriptions of what/who they are to make things clearer to the general populace about what you are talking about/referring to.
Also another critical interesection point or interesection points for the SAN proposal would occur at Normanurst. You have made no mention of this.
Comment 10.4 21 Jun 2009, 6:26 PM
This is absolutely correct. As a local I've seen this first hand.
I'm concerned that there are so many small protest groups operating independently and in isolation from each other.
We are up against a state government with no respect for residents rights or democratic processes - the Kuring-gai public meeting demonstrated this.
Only mass protest could possibly influence them or failing that, throw them out at the next election.
I urge the organisers of these protest groups to liaise with each other and co-ordinate their efforts while there is still some time left.
Comment 11 29 Jun 2009, 11:05 PM
The Thornleigh Normanhurst Residents Group has arranged a follow up meeting to discuss the strategy for the Thornleigh area. All residents are urged to attend.
Side meeting room, Thornleigh Community Centre, corner Phyllis and Central Avenue Thornleigh, Thursday 2nd July - 8pm.
Comment 12 4 Jul 2009, 9:43 PM
Thornleigh - Normanhurst residents group started with the closure of Thornleigh Public School and pre-dates many of the shire's community groups.
New members are welcome.
The TNRG meeting on Thurs night discussed the following issues related to the housing strategy.
Pennant Hills Road.
Pennant Hills Road precinct.
Station Street precinct.
It was agreed that some form of development is both inevitable and necessary, and that sensible and sensitive planning will benefit the community.
However, the current proposals are neither - what has been presented instead seems to be the result of a few geeks playing Simcity on their computers rather than professional and visionary planning - a more…
Comment 12.1 8 Jul 2009, 9:34 PM
"It was agreed that some form of development is both inevitable and necessary"
(1) Why is it inevitable? Remember my presentation at the Community Hall? On peak oil (2005-2008), the financial crisis and power shortages because we can't continue with our coal fired power plants?
The whole "development" is only driven by State politicians who see Sydney in competition to Melbourne and want more DAs processed here. They want to make deals with big developers. But these deals become unstuck now because peak oil triggerd the financial crisis which will be permanent.
Financial crisis and peak oil explained by actuary Gail Tverberg, Atlanta, more…